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Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D

We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.

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    6 days ago

    IMHO you shouldn’t have to run a stripped down Windows to get good results. It should just work that way out of the box. LTSC is not supposed to be a consumer OS.

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      I think it’s a valid comparison request due to some things just flat out not being compatible with Linux.

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        Pretty much everything will run on Linux now. It’s just the companies behind the games being dumbasses and blocking it with their anti-cheat.

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          There is plenty of software that doesn’t, and plenty of games that don’t run on Linux, even beyond anticheat games. If it wasn’t true, we wouldn’t need protondb telling us what is and isn’t. You can advocate for Linux all day, but you have to admit there is still software that is 100% Windows only.

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            I was specifically referring to games as a subset of software in general. Generally, I haven’t run into a game that doesn’t “just work” on Linux unless the developer has non-working anti cheat. Are there any major games you’ve tried that that wasn’t the case?

            As for all software, we still have work to do there.

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              I was going to put an explanation on why I can’t use Linux, but it doesn’t matter. I’m someone who can’t make the leap yet with the software and game services I use. I want to be, but I just can’t yet.

              This is why the original commenter shouldn’t get downvoted for asking about 10 iot benchmarks because I, too, am looking to convert to this version when consumer 10 support ends this year. If it works on my desktop well, I’d likely try it on my Rog Ally.

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      Shouldn’t have to, absolutely, but its done anyway, so I think its can be relevant.

      Until that last little bit of stuff I have to use windows for becomes linux native or at least doesn’t have a tutorial to make it work that makes my eyes cross, its just easier for me to use my stripped down windows install because it just works.

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        Arch is a stripped down version of Arch.

        Linux isn’t monolithic like Windows, so it can be purpose built for anything.

        Windows LTSC is designed for things like kiosks, ATMs, etc that have a long service life. It’s not made for gaming. It doesn’t even include things like DirectX by default, IIRC. You have to add it.

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        this is the funniest thing i’ve read all week. Arch comes with the kernel, some generic drivers, BASH, and the package manager. there’s nothing to strip down, the only way to start with less is to download the kernel and roll your own from scratch.

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        But it comes with consumer devices. Preinstalled, just like Windows does in whatever version they compares here.

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          So? That still doesn’t change the fact that SteamOS is a stripped down version of Linux that can’t do everything a Linux computer can do.

          So the comparison is flawed.

          It is like comparing a Swiss army knife to a regular knife. The regular knife is going to be better at cutting, but it won’t do any of the other things a Swiss army knife can do

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            no.

            SteamOS is based on Arch, which is what I’m running right now.

            Arch comes with the kernel, a package manager, some generic drivers to get you started, and a CLI. That’s it. Zero bloat. You then add what you need/want on top of it.

            It’s not “stripped down”, it’s not hobbled for the sake of extra performance, it actually has more system components than my daily driver. You can get ahold of the recovery ISO and go install it on any box, it’s not really super specialized beyond supporting video games.

            hell i have a friend who slaps steamos on everything anymore because it works out of the box everywhere and does everything just fine. it’s absolutely not some hobbled abnormal linux, it’s a fully featured OS that does everything just fine.

            “De-bloating” and “stripping down” are things Windows users do, because Windows is bloated and fucky and awful. That’s just not a thing on Linux dude.

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